18 comments

  • parhamn 2 days ago

    > This study supports the inclusion of sleep regularity in public health guidelines and clinical practice as a risk factor for cardiovascular disease.

    Does it? What they're measuring seems like a very likely proxy measurement for stress. I can't tell besides employment status/hours if they measure or include that at all.

    • andreareina 2 days ago

      Risk factor doesn't mean causative, only that there's enough signal to use it in considering what interventions to pursue. Made-up example, maybe slightly elevated blood lipids by itself wouldn't merit lipid lowering agents, but in combination with other risk factors like high blood pressure or poor sleep regularity, they are merited.

      The field of medicine in general understands the concept of a condition being secondary to another, underlying cause and might treat it as a comfort thing but doesn't consider that with fixing the underlying.

    • 0xDEAFBEAD 2 days ago

      In the "Covariates" section it mentions they're controlling for "self-reported sleep problems" such as insomnia. I imagine a relationship between stress and sleep regularity would most likely be mediated by insomnia?

    • Aeolun 2 days ago

      It probably is, but if sleep becomes more regular it’s pretty likely that stress also goes down?

      Not guaranteed of course, but the correlation likely works in the other direction too.

    • mattmaroon 2 days ago

      They didn’t even attempt to show causation because it would so obviously be impossible.

  • dzink 2 days ago

    Shift workers deserve more hazard pay and or health care coverage.

    • seizethecheese 2 days ago

      From the article: “SRI captures day-to-day variability in bedtime, wake-up time, sleep duration, and awakenings during sleep.”

      This has nothing to do with when you sleep, it’s about variability.

      • goplayoutside 2 days ago

        >The term "shift work" includes both long-term night shifts and work schedules in which employees change or rotate shifts.

        [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_work

        • seizethecheese 2 days ago

          To further show how my comment might be wrong: "In medicine and epidemiology, shift work is considered a risk factor for some health problems in some individuals, as disruption to circadian rhythms..."

          I interpreted "shift work" to mean "night shift".

      • mattmaroon 11 hours ago

        Shift workers certainly experience more variability too though. I did it when I was in college. Your sleep schedule for work is incompatible with your personal life. Want to go to your family’s for Thanksgiving? That’s right in the middle of when you’d normally be asleep. Etc.

        It’s really tough.

      • blackeyeblitzar 2 days ago

        Although you’re probably right in the context of this study, I highly suspect when you sleep does affect things due to the evolutionary and biological significance of the circadian rhythm.

      • aaron695 2 days ago

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  • mcdeltat 2 days ago

    Step 0: create a society where quality sleep is not valued, and instead almost ridiculed.

    Step 1: "Oh wait sleep is kinda important! Oopsie!"

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  • zzzeek 2 days ago

    > This study supports the inclusion of sleep regularity in public health guidelines and clinical practice as a risk factor for cardiovascular disease.

    Great here comes Uncle Nanny State yet again telling us to get a good night's sleep

    • heyoni 2 days ago

      Did you drop this “/s”?

      • zzzeek a day ago

        that just spoils it

        • heyoni 3 hours ago

          Oh thank god. I was like “not my zzzeek noooooo”