46 comments

  • lou_alcala a day ago

    Hi HN,

    I’ve been working on JSONtr.ee, a web platform for visualizing and graphing JSON data. While building it, I ended up creating my own lightweight JavaScript library to help anyone convert a JSON file into a schema graph.

    Before creating this library, I used MermaidJS, but I ran into significant limitations, especially with large and deeply nested JSON objects. My library was built to handle these cases better and to offer more flexibility for customization. After solving my own problem, I decided to make it available for free to anyone who might find it useful.

    Key features: Transforms JSON into schema graphs. Handles large and complex JSON objects seamlessly. Built with simplicity in mind – dependency-free and easy to integrate.

    Why I made this: While working with APIs and large webhook payloads, I struggled to understand nested structures using standard tools. This library makes it easier to visualize the data as a graph and explore it interactively.

    I’d love to hear your feedback, suggestions, or any ideas for improvement.

    Thanks for taking a look!

    • politelemon 17 hours ago

      I like it, one piece of feedback I have is - the export to PNG button, I wasn't expecting it to be a screenshot of the JSON, I thought it would be the graph; at least to me that would make more sense... paste JSON, see graph, export image of graph. What do you think.

      • retSava 15 hours ago

        I agree with this. Since it's rendered as an SVG, saving it as an SVG would be great. PNG as backup perhaps.

        Looks great! Thanks OP for sharing!

      • lou_alcala 17 hours ago

        Thanks for the feedback, the option to take a snapshot of the graph sounds good, I will add it to the TODO

    • mattvr 20 hours ago

      The example on the site is a very simple JSON object that doesn't demonstrate JSONtr.ee's potential at all.

      To showcase it better, I'd like to see more complex objects on the initial reveal, so I don't have to go and find & format a JSON object just to see if the app/library is worth using yet!

      • lou_alcala 20 hours ago

        You're absolutely right! Thank you for pointing that out. I've updated the initial JSON example to include a more complex and realistic object that better showcases

        • mattvr 7 hours ago

          Looks much better!

          I could definitely see using this, but don't think it solves anything for me right now.

          I think if the diagrams didn't require horizontal panning, and/or supported interactive collapsing, it would be more effective. As it stands, the text view on the left side of the screen is actually easier to parse at a glance than the tree.

          Generally, vertical scrolling is more natural for reading this kind of data, and also works better on mobile.

          So a first guess of an improvement is something like: the tree diagram generally grows flat & vertical, with horizontal panning (or a manual "expand" click) reserved for deeply nested objects.

    • santa_boy 17 hours ago

      This is quite beautiful. I love it! Will use this as an alternative to my mindmap software!

    • tasn a day ago

      Very cool, I shared with the team! We (Svix) show a lot of JSON, so this could be super useful for us. Thanks!

      • lou_alcala a day ago

        Thanks! I really appreciate you sharing it with your team. If you try it out and have any feedback or ideas for improvement, I’d love to hear them

    • codetiger a day ago

      In safari, the text is rendering outside of the shape. You might want to take a look at that.

      • lou_alcala 21 hours ago

        Good call! Thanks for letting me know! I will check it.

        • lou_alcala 21 hours ago

          This should be fixed now. Thanks

    • newusertoday 17 hours ago

      very nice approach to create svg from json and using css transform for zoom translate.Lightweight and efficient kudos.

  • tie_ 16 hours ago

    Very cool project and would be super useful with something like GraphQL, which tends to produce big nested JSON objects. Thanks for sharing it!

    One improvement in my eyes would be to remove the "connector" boxes, like `members (2): "Array"` and `powers (3): "Array"` and have the arrow go straight to the array property. Those connector boxes take up a lot of real estate without conveying new information.

    • demaga 15 hours ago

      Great idea! Maybe they can write "members" and "powers" above the "column" with actual data boxes.

  • mg 17 hours ago

    Beautiful.

    Single file, 187 lines of JavaScript, no dependencies, does one thing and does it well.

    I wish there was a way to search for libraries like this one. Almost every time I look for some piece of open source software, I end up writing it myself because all the solutions I find are overcomplicated and try to do too many things.

    • chipdart 17 hours ago

      > Single file, 187 lines of JavaScript, no dependencies, does one thing and does it well.

      Even though I understood your point, a cursory glance suggests it only maps a JavaScript object to a SVG. Hardly something with more than one responsibility, or something you need anything other than plain JavaScript to do.

      • mg 16 hours ago

        That is what I mean with "does one thing". The author made the right choice to put just one feature into this repo.

        If you publish a repo with many features, bells and whistles, it is lost on me.

        If you publish a repo that aims to do one thing in the best way possible, I will take a look at it, might use it, might contribute if I stumble across something that can be improved.

        Repos like this should stay as small and focussed as they are. New features should go into new repos that make use of repos like this one.

      • aminemat 16 hours ago

        You clearly don’t know how much js devs love dependencies! Look up “left-pad incident”

        • chipdart 15 hours ago

          I do. I know that colors.js is a meme by now.

    • deskr 14 hours ago

      My thoughts exactly. I was expecting the classic millions of dependencies. Very nice!

    • h1fra 12 hours ago

      Except this file does almost nothing compared to the actual website. The website is worth 1Mb of dependencies

  • dchuk 21 hours ago

    Am I missing something or does this just completely not do anything on iOS/mobile? I see in the json editor a single object with two keys, and then no visual tree rendering whatsoever

    • lou_alcala 21 hours ago

      Sorry this was intensionally, I couldn't find a way to show the graph in mobile so I just hide the div. I will add a tab or a button to switch between the json and the graph.

      • lou_alcala 20 hours ago

        I fix the issues in mobile, I found other issues with dragging the graph

      • dchuk 18 hours ago

        Appreciate the quick iteration!

  • WA 13 hours ago

    Perfect candidate for a nice, simple, self-contained web component / custom element. Instead of:

        <div id="json-tree"></div>
        ...
        const container = document.getElementById('json-tree');
        container.innerHTML = generateJSONTree(jsonData);
    
    You'd have this:

        <json-tree id="json-tree"></json-tree>
        ...
        const container = document.getElementById('json-tree');
        container.jsonTree = jsonData;
    
    Attributes not necessary, simply pass the json data as a prop. Granted, the difference isn't that big, but this is where web components shine.
  • rendaw 19 hours ago

    This seems a lot like jless, which I've used a _lot_ for exploring complex json files. https://jless.io/

    • just-tom 16 hours ago

      Can you explain a little what are the similarities you found?

      • rendaw 14 hours ago

        Good question, and TBH... I might be a bit unclear too.

        Pretty-printed JSON shows siblings down, and children down and to the right. TFA's library shows siblings down and children to the right, plus with squiggly lines and boxes. So I'm not sure how TFA visualizes JSON more than JSON itself already visualizes JSON. It says it's interactive, and I don't see any interaction either other than scrolling, so I may be missing something.

        But, assuming that the interaction is supposed to be stuff like hiding children in order to get a higher level view of the data, then drill down to the lower levels of the data, and provide other tools for exploring the data (searching, filtering, etc) then jless does all that too.

  • pcthrowaway 15 hours ago

    Note that HTML tags contained in the json will be injected into the DOM.

    Other than that, looks beautiful

  • dankwizard a day ago

    Really clean design. I generated a bunch of complex deeply strucutred dummy JSON data and the resulting visual wasn't bad!

    I like the name too! A small suggestion is don't force yourself to call it Jsontr.ee because of the cool domain. Getting to the line "Render the Tree Diagram: Use the jsontr.ee function to visualize the JSON data." -- Just use jsontree :-)

    • codetiger a day ago

      +1 for the JSONTree naming.

  • scho3000 16 hours ago

    Cool stuff! Found a bug: Changing e.g. "Jane Wilson" to something longer like "Jane Sarah Hildegard Wilson" in your example renders the arrows to the powers incorrectly.

    • lou_alcala 15 hours ago

      Thanks for letting me know this. I will fix asap

  • nirav72 15 hours ago

    This is an amazing project.

    One suggestion - Make the JSON editor panel collapsible or resizable.

  • thisgoodlife a day ago

    Cool project! If the input is an array of objects, the output graph is just a single block. Is this the expected output?

    • lou_alcala 21 hours ago

      Thanks for letting me know this, I will make some tests and deploy the fix.

  • n0id34 17 hours ago

    Very nice, what's the main use case? vs just looking at the formatted JSON?

    • lou_alcala 17 hours ago

      Hi, I used for debug raw json from webhooks

  • subhashp 17 hours ago

    Looks gorgeous! It looks like a MindMap!!

  • byyoung3 15 hours ago

    A VSCode extension would be cool

  • dcreater 19 hours ago

    How is this different to jsoncrack.com?

    • politelemon 17 hours ago

      Seems like jsoncrack is a product with a paid plan, this one jsontr.ee is standalone (so far). I also found the performance of the graph wasn't very smooth on jsoncrack.

  • kanishkdan98 a day ago

    pretty cool! there's a limit to how much you can zoom out, I'd have liked that. Also the ability to hide the json input area.